Become the-one-who-breathes-you.
Or, realize that you already are.
That peace is with you.
And Heaven is now.
There is nothing to become, everything to be.
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My Uncle uses the simile of God being an architect. We are building His House, but the Plan was conceived long ago. I like that. I liked this invitation as well. You see something as well, Julie.
So be it with Bliss and Love,
John
Or maybe becoming is coming to know what you already are.
Yes.
You don't become everything. Everything becomes you. There seems to be a big difference. For you to become everything seems to be impossible. For everything to become you is enlightenment. Just an idea. Try to think about it.
I guess it means: when everything becomes you, you become nothing. Then there's only everything which includes you somehow. You being lost in the totality but not becoming the totality.
We are Fragments of the Whole. We see the Whole, know we are part of that Whole on one Level (our bodies and minds), and are the Whole at the level of Being (pure Consciousness). Julie is correct in her previous post. She is a fractal. Consciousness is likely fractal. Does a raindrop care if it is part of a puddle, a river, or an ocean? Yet, given time, all raindrops find their way to the oceans to be born again as raindrops. We are One, are born into bodies, think we are separate minds rather than One mind in different bodies, and return to the One, and start the dance all over again in new bodies (yes, reincarnation is real). In reality, we are always One Real Mind overlayed or filtered by physical minds which are extensions of our bodies. So, in a sense this is not personal. I am Consciousness writing to itself. You are Consciousness. Julie is Consciousness. Thinking prevents you from Being what you are. Julie knows this Truth. Who else knows this Truth?
John
John,
I used to believe that. But somehow I changed my mind.
The I or the you cannot become that, or that consciousness. The I or the you seems to be nothing but illusions, just images, ideas, thoughts in that consciousness. They can never be that consciousness in its totality. To say I am that or that consciousness, is to say I am everything, or I am God.
This is not what some mystics or teachers are teaching somehow.
Anyway, I don't believe truth or absolute truth exists. There is only reality or absolute reality, and we don't really know what it is. We can give it any name like God, Absolute Reality, Consciousness, but it doesn't mean we know what it is. We don't even know what the most elementary thing or substance the universe is made of.
I think we should leave truth to the philosophers and keep to our illusions. I don't know if we will ever know the truth. Even people who are considered enlightened by many experts don't seem to know what absolute reality is. Just my opinion.
It is part of being human to wonder about our origins and purpose in Life. Everyone is a philosopher at some time or another. Certain aspects of reality can be tested. I became disillusioned with quantum chemistry because the largest molecule it can describe currently is something simple like formaldehyde. I worked with macromolecules in the form of proteins and DNA hundreds if not, thousands of times larger and more complex. Quantum chemistry is useless to molecular biologists. Yet, even quantum physics tells us that the observer can affect the outcome of the experiment. Read up on Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle in Wikipedia.org. If you want even more mind benders, consider Schrondinger's cat. Yet, in day to day living, quantum physics doesn't affect us unless somebody pushes a button and we get hit by a thermonuclear weapon or we get our electricity from a nuclear power plant. Billions of neutrinos and the occasional cosmic ray stream through our bodies every minute of our lives and we never notice. Yet, those particles exist even though we can never perceive them directly. We can't perceive bacteria directly, yet, we need them to help digest our food and protect our teeth and our bodies from harmful strains of bacteria. Science is a form of philosophy. Religion is another form. All philosophy is in essence is honest inquiry. People are only now starting to test their beliefs and discover which ones are real. Do you really trust another person to tell you how and why the World is as it is? Why not discover the truth for yourself? There is Reality and then there are our ideas of Reality. Ideas are testable. Reality is testable. Reality is also experienced.
My point about quantum physics having little impact on our daily lives was flawed. I forgot the fusion reactor called the Sun which makes life possible on this planet. I also forgot semiconductor technology and computers. The microchips that are at the heart of any computing device are quantum devices. So, quantum physics does affect every part of our lives in some way.
"Heaven is now"
How easy it is to read this.
And yet if it was truly understood one could not help bursting into tears.
We have little conception of how much better "heaven" is, and "now" is mearly a symbol representing that which we so expertly avoid.
How long we have suffered, and how little chance of escape.
JBMoore, I see; when I walk, the journey will have started.
Darius; I wouldn't mind considering "becoming" in that sense. (To me, becoming implies a change more than a realization.) Reminds me of a song lyric; "I am clay and I am water... becoming who I am."
Isaiah/Tommy; :)
Imemine, I don't see the difference. Is, is is; a statement of equality. Becoming nothing, becoming lost, frees one to be all. Being all frees one to be nothing, frees one to love.
JBMoore; friend, we all move at our own pace. Too much water drowns a plant. ;)
Imemine... truth is; it is seen and it is not. It's interesting to see you shy away conceptually from this path of thought. It has the appearance of heresy; you're fearful. Ask yourself what you fear and you may find, as Trev said, they're only rocks. If I might ask a favor; be open to changing your mind again and again. See why Jesus spoke in parables? Do what you need to in order to stay centered; there is no shame in that.
Knowing absolute Reality and communicating it effectively are two very different things. My perfect sense of shelter may be your cave. You find what speaks to you. Intellectual questions are answered with the intellect; spiritual questions cannot be answered the same way.
JBMoore; reality is experienced but not all experiences are of reality (best I can tell). The web is infinitely; the extent to which we are aware varies. Neutrinos and cosmic rays! I like thinking about neutrinos; if they are faster than light and travel backward in time, then sometime in the future something will exceed light speed. That theoretically requires, what, an infinite amount of energy?
Beard; I've wept; yes and amen.
Much love to you all,
"nothing to become, everything to be."
Yes we are human beings not human doings.
However I feel that it is impossible to stay for long in these exalted states ("Heaven is now") without help from an enlightened teacher.
IMEMINE:It's an apple.
JBMOORE:It's a Red Delicious.
IMEMINE: I used to believe that, but it's an apple.
JBMOORE: I'm pretty sure it's a Red Delicious.
Hey guys, I love you both. But your disagreement sounds like agreement to me!
Jon,
Good one!
Imemine: "You don't become everything. Everything becomes you." Yes. And I think that's the central point that Christians who are unfamiliar with the contempative aspect of their faith sometimes get turned around on.
They identify God with themselves rather than identify themselves with God. That's what gives them the Truth - and their contribution to religion as a source of conflict in the world.
Darius,
Please explain further. I am interested. Why expect conflict?
lovely. can i borrow it for my blog with due credit? its surely very inspirting...
Darius, I think I understand your meaning; let me know if this is right. Saying, "the ocean is like this glass of water," while true, doesn't encompass nearly the whole of the ocean. Saying, "this glass of water is like the ocean," is also true, but leaves room for other things (dewdrops, puddles, rivers, whatever) to also be like the ocean.
You and I will posit that many things are like the ocean, and even say that it's reasonable that some things I have seen, that you haven't, might also be like the ocean. The first speaker, above, insists that oceans are only like glasses of water; all else is heresy.
I'm honored, Sadiq. Feel free!
Jon, nono, it's a snowman! *grin*
Rob, friend, I think it's possible but difficult.
Imemine: "You don't become everything. Everything becomes you" to me sounds similar to what I think of as identifying oneself with God rather than God with oneself. The contemplative traditions of every religion encourage experiences, through contemplative prayer and meditation, that foster the experience of - to use Christian terminology - "dying to self and living to Christ." People from other traditions don't call it that, but the experiences themselves, and the practices designed to foster them, are very similar.
The opposite end of the spectrum is when you hear people using God-talk to hyper-inflate their egos. Contemporary political and social discourse abounds with this, particulary from the far right. God and God's will are identified with their own positions on a desultory list of things they disapprove of: stem cell research, abortion, homosexuality and so forth.
I don't think it's a coincidence that right wing Christians often show no understanding of Christianity's ancient contemplative tradition. So there's not a lot in their experience of religion to tap them on the shoulder and remind them that we can get in touch with something that's much bigger than ourselves alone.
The author of "The Purpose Driven Life," for example, somehow became a minister, and yet equates contemplative approaches to God with "self help" books!
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