Saturday, September 02, 2006

all questions return to the inner path

It's all bound by a common thread...

The nature of mysticism
I have been meditating on the nature of mysticism for some time now, and at last managed to record my conclusions: it is beyond thought, it is beyond logic. it is the inner path.

Everything is complete - here, now.

Mass
It's been a day of relief, in general. I was near tears throughout Mass. The divide between appearance and reality can be deep. But the experience of being there, is the answer in itself; nothing else is needed but presence. I've alternately known and wished to ask the pastor for confirmation - do you know what you appear to know? are we on the same path? Today would've been a question day, afterwards. But the homily was about the inner path, circuitously, but too carefully, and with too much truth spoken, to be accidental. We spoke later; nothing needed to be said; communication closes the circuit.

More thoughts
In early Buddhism and in Christ's walk, people were called to leave everything behind. And I think that's a necessary thing. We don't have to leave everything behind, but must - and this is essential - we must be willing to leave it all behind, to let it all go. It's like the proverb about setting the caged bird free. It brings the fullness of meaning to "who would lose his life will save it" - because true freedom is in holding loosely.

Even to life.

Fight Club
In Fight Club, we're invited to face a lot of horrifying truths. My reflection from the evening I watched it:

you can't get there without going all the way into the darkness
this - i am this, too
everything i hate, everything against which i would cover my eyes
go there - and become that.
it is needed.
to be unafraid to enter the darkest places, and to see that they are light
the fearlessness is important; it lets one enter truly, unprotected.

what's in there?

nothing. and that's freedom.


When I was in high school, I had an outstanding sparring partner; both epeeists. At practice, we wouldn't practice - we'd fight, going at it, hammer and tongs, until quitting time. It was living. It was fun. I understood, watching the movie, why they would fight. I've been there.

There seems to be some kind of taboo on acknowledging what we might be, what we're capable of - anything, specifically harmful things. I could be a murderer. Could. Am not, but could be - and I'm not at all threatened to say so. It seems like so many people would say, "oh, I could never do that" - perhaps, and this is only a suggestion - they don't know what they really are.

Tolle
As with Mass above, I know, and yet, I wonder. This afternoon's reading included Cohen's interview with Tolle, from 2000. It was nice to be able to relate, to find that anybody has found words to point to experience in a meaningful way. To me, listening to a teacher is a relief (that word again!) because somebody is finally saying something that groks. (The word "teacher" has never sat well with me, and there seem to be as many prescriptions as people. While we all are moved along our path in myriad ways, I will claim that a teacher is unnecessary, that truth can be found in many ways, and thus we all are taught.)

Even without a spiritual teaching or a spiritual teacher, I believe that everybody would get [to the place that is free of suffering] eventually. But that could take time. . . . A spiritual teaching is there to save time. The basic message of the teaching is that you don't need any more time, you don't need any more suffering.


I wrote to somebody, lately, that perhaps we are all moving forward, even if apparently backward or other-serpentinely, and thus, perhaps everything is in order. To the same end, Tolle commented upon watching over-busy New Yorkers:

They are running to a then. They are suffering, but they don't even know it. But to me, even watching that was joyful. I didn't feel, "Oh, they should know better." They are on their spiritual path. At the moment, that is their spiritual path, and it works beautifully.


Something else it's nice to find; words describing a thing I meditated upon while kayaking:

There's a vast spaciousness. There's a vast stillness and there's a little ripple activity on the surface, which isn't separate, just like the ripples are not separate from the ocean.


Another question lately - okay, nothing, so what now? Everything that appears to exist, doesn't; the only thing that does, cannot be understood in the conventional manner of things - it is beyond thought, beyond logic. So what is one to comport oneself toward this world thing?

Cohen: If someone simply asks you, "Is the world real or unreal?" would you say it was real or would you have to qualify the statement?
Tolle: I would probably qualify the statement.
Cohen: Saying what?
Tolle: It's a temporary manifestation of the real.


It's not as though that answers the question, but having some words for the hulking beast is helpful.

And a recurring dream
Since I was a child, I've occasionally had a vision, usually when I was ill, or had slept too warmly, and I recalled it the other day. There's always a delicate pale pink-purple flower, a single stem, in a glad bud vase on a table, outdoors, as though part of a restaurant patio (though I have never seen chairs other tables); a frail glassy tinkling sound goes with it. The other I could sense, but never see; an enormous crushing weight, which would destroy the flower like so much nothing; a deep, though not discordant, but rich and overpowering sound accompanies this; it's like a steamroller, but with the texture of marshmallow, and the character of a black hole, in a matter-of-fact unmenacing way. The focus of my dream shifts back and forth between the two; the flower's position seems precarious, but is never destroyed.

It fits my present experience: the insubstantial nature of what is seen, and the invisible overwhelming presence nearby.

No answers, but the framework, a more substantial way to hold the thoughts, experiences, questions - helps.

9 comments:

CE said...

How to get to a place that is free of suffering:
Of course everybody should be allowed to "teach enlightenment". But we can never really tell if the teacher is "enlightened". How can you tell if the teacher is bullshitting or horseshitting? Pardon me.
Well, even if you have a lot of money like Bill Gates, and can make sure you will not suffer by eating the right food, getting the best medical attention and health services, you're still likely to suffer from aging and diseases that even our present-day and futuristic science and technology will not be able to prevent or heal. Many "enlightened teachers" died from cancer and old age and I believe inspite of the drugs administered they still had suffered excruciatingly. Unless you get accidentally eloctrocuted like Merton.
In the end only death means the end of physical and mental suffering. Unless there is such a thing as hell, and people who reject the divinity and infallibility of Jesus as the only begotten son of God will inevitably go there. Otherwise what's the point of Biblical Christianity?

Jon said...

It fits my present experience: the insubstantial nature of what is seen, and the invisible overwhelming presence nearby.

That, together with what you said about the experience at Mass, sounds like a further shift for you, like the Holodeck is being seen as the source of everything as well as just being Emptiness.

Invisible overwhelming Presence. Frimmin'!

isaiah said...

"Everything is complete - here, now."

You said it.

Jim said...

My opinions:

The inner path is not 'complete-here, now' There is work to do.

There is only one path, it is universal, even the planets (inclu Pluto) are on it, even the people who don't want to be on it, are on it.

One wants to be 'free' so one gives up everything, and gets everything in return, what is 'everything'? Life. You can be dead, (that is wanting all of everything for yourself), or you can be alive, (wanting less for yourself so that others can have theirs). Tho 'dead' seems 'more', and 'life' less, the opposite is true. But why this is, that cannot be said, not yet anyway.

Darkness comes before the light, the light comes out of the darkness. Darkness is the inner structure of Time, its' context. Out of Time in darkness will come light, something from nothing.

Being born.

The dream/vision is a common classical one, Life in Time, Life Eternal. Changing places. Life in Time, Fears; Life Eternal does not. We exist between, choice makes all the difference, like 'intent' is everything. Nothing physical changes places, the 'focus' does.

isaiah said...

Jim-

"The inner path is not 'complete-here, now' There is work to do."

It appears that there is work for you to do... but you will still, ultimately arrive at:

"Everything is complete - here, now."

Respectfully,

anonymous julie said...

Imemine; some people know truth when they find it (whether the speaker knows what he is saying, or not). (I do, but am not sure everybody does.) I think that suffering is a matter of perspective, though we tend to put illness and suffering hand-in-hand. Many Christian theologians figure that people, upon death, will be confronted with "the Truth" and will either embrace or deny at that point, and that their life's actions will guide the choice in some way. So they say.

Jon, I suppose so. Whether it's a further shift or that I've just found a way to describe experience, I don't know.

Isaiah, sometimes I really do understand it that way; other times the question isn't even present to me.

Jim; Work to do? Which? How do you know?

Complete - here, now. And now. And now. And now.

Life is living, there is no wanting, only living. Your 'dead' is not more, nor 'life,' less, not to me.

I've oft said that time is a theoretical construction. Do I still think so? I don't care. People need to make sense of things. What sense is there to make? All is darkness, all is light; there, it is. What more might be said?

Jim said...

I consider it a mistake to think that the 'inner path' is only in 'you'. You are not separate and neither is your 'inner'. If you look around, the complete is not finished, but could be. Thinking it is, is why it ain't.

Death and Life are two different things, not one, one is to be had, the other is to be not had, at all.

You know which is which.

Suffering only exists because the inner is not complete, that causes death and suffering, time exists as a part of that incompleteness, saying it is a construct of thought, and not real is a cop-out. Time and suffering and death exist to be done, made complete by functions not yet performed. Where they to be performed, these things would not be, Yet we would, then you could say what you are saying now. If the little child puts the hands over the eyes, does the world really be gone?

Jim said...

Reading this, these comments and your replies, I get the feeling that Christian Theology is defeatist, accepting of death as permanent, the world of death as permanent, and the creation of an urge to be judged later.

I would say that every day is judgement day, and if you die, there will be no 'debate' at all, not even for a moment, there will only be what is not here, then and that will be you, there will be no question as to who that is.

Jim said...

But in thinking about the 'work' to do, perhaps I am wrong, and there is nothing there. Nothing for some to do. On the Path of Life, all there is, as to which. So perhaps I have no business rejecting a specific claim to completion as inadequate, perhaps for some it is true, you/it are complete, there is nothing to do. Okay, congrats. Enjoy.